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<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:
You don't need to be worthy to lift Stormbreaker <p>And if physical laws work on Thor,why would not he fit in PR unevierse? </p> </i></div>
I wasn't talking about Stormbreaker, I was just highlighting the blatant use of magic with Mjolnir, and you seemed to have dodged the question. <p>The laws of physics clearly don't work with Thor, the guy flies around using his hammer. </p><p>Would you like to start another thread for this, in an off-topic sub-forum? This thread seems to have been over long ago. </p> </div>Okay.Lats start it.Who will do it?</div>You can start one here: https://pacificrim.wikia.com/wiki/Board:Fun_and_Games </div> <p>Last time I posted something there I was banned </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:
You don't need to be worthy to lift Stormbreaker <p>And if physical laws work on Thor,why would not he fit in PR unevierse? </p> </i></div>
I wasn't talking about Stormbreaker, I was just highlighting the blatant use of magic with Mjolnir, and you seemed to have dodged the question. <p>The laws of physics clearly don't work with Thor, the guy flies around using his hammer. </p><p>Would you like to start another thread for this, in an off-topic sub-forum? This thread seems to have been over long ago. </p> </div> <p>Okay.Lats start it.Who will do it? </p>

<p>You don't need to be worthy to lift Stormbreaker </p><p>And if physical laws work on Thor,why would not he fit in PR unevierse? </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Of course I read your comments, I'm still referring to it as magic because it certainly isn't science. I heard Groot could lift Thor's hammer in Infinity War (haven't seen the movie yet), so your DNA reading idea's gone out the window I'm afraid.</i></div>
Groot could lift Stormbreaker,not a Mjolnir. </div>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Chrome Colossus wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Chrome Colossus wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Considering the first Kaiju were nuked hard enough to not even identify their categories, I imagine they didn't learn much apart from the existence of the Kaiju. <p>And remember, the US navy was building these ships using construction techniques that had been around for years, using material and technology that was fairly common, and it still took them nearly 2 years to produce an aircraft carrier. Building a Jaeger would be more akin building a capital ship in the modern day, and they still take 6-8 years to construct. </p> </div>This isn't the US Navy we're talking about here, it's the whole world. Not only Pacific Rim nations were involved.</div> <p>Do we know that the whole world was involved in the PPDC? All the Jaegers originate from nations around the Rim, and the only other nation we know to have provided assistance is the UK, with at least one pilot. And it does seem like nations were individually responsible for the production of Jaegers, as Striker Eureka allegedly cost $100 billion AUD, which suggests that Australia was a significant, if not the sole, contributor to the construction of Striker. It would also explain why richer nations (Like Japan and the US) had multiple Jaegers and why poorer ones (like Mexico and Chile) only had a single Jaeger. </p> </div>The PPDC was funded by the United Nations, and clearly employed people from all over the world. Apparently 193/195 countries are a part of the United Nations, so literally almost the whole world was involved with the PPDC. Of course all Jaegers will be stationed in Pacific Rim countries, and PR nations will be investing more into their own Jaegers, but in the end the PPDC owned these Jaegers. The PacRim countries are paying to have their own tech developed for Jaegers that'll be based around their nearest Shatterdome. And of course, each country wasn't left to develop the Jaeger on their own. They'd be produced in a PPDC Jaeger Production Facilitiy, which would have many workers from all over the world and funding from the UN. <p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i>OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Exactly, very well said. I only disagree with the kaiju bones part, it's clearly said in the movie that metals such as iron and titanium were used. I can see past that and assume in reality, another material would be used. I think they were trying to sound scientific by mentioning different metals, it really just comes off as kinda cheesy to me though.</div>Why should not Asgardians use strong materials as well?Why can't they use quantum level technology?PR is not more realistic than MCU.</div>Sure they can, I never suggested they can't, but how on Earth can Thor fly? He can't, not in the real world. No one just flies like that in Pacific Rim. Pacific Rim also doesn't have a hammer that can't be lifted by people other than some magical guy called Thor who happily goes against the laws of physics (which isn't possible in the real world buddy).</div>Maybe he has some kind of powerfield or anti gravity tech,who know.Mjolnir also has gravity manipulations. <p>Again.Thor is not a magical guy in the MCU,he is just a very strong alien with cool weapon and ability to absorb and shoot electricity </p> </div>The alien tech argument holds up in many scenarios, and I can agree with it, but where's Thor's anti-grav tech? The idea is he's a God of Thunder, and can fly without the tech, which isn't possible in our world. And again, what happened to you answering Thor's hammer being lifted? There's no argument here, because as mentioned, the MCU is clearly stated to show Earth in a different universe, not the real one. </div> <p>Do you even read my comments?I said that THOR IS NOT A MAGICAL BEING,HE IS A BIOLOGICAL ORGANISM!!!! </p><p>Maybe only Thor can summon and lift Mjolnir because it is somehow can read Thor's DNA,just like the Breach from PR. </p><p>It was mentioned that there is not magic in the MCU!!!!!! </p> <div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Chrome Colossus wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Chrome Colossus wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Considering the first Kaiju were nuked hard enough to not even identify their categories, I imagine they didn't learn much apart from the existence of the Kaiju. <p>And remember, the US navy was building these ships using construction techniques that had been around for years, using material and technology that was fairly common, and it still took them nearly 2 years to produce an aircraft carrier. Building a Jaeger would be more akin building a capital ship in the modern day, and they still take 6-8 years to construct. </p> </div>This isn't the US Navy we're talking about here, it's the whole world. Not only Pacific Rim nations were involved.</div> <p>Do we know that the whole world was involved in the PPDC? All the Jaegers originate from nations around the Rim, and the only other nation we know to have provided assistance is the UK, with at least one pilot. And it does seem like nations were individually responsible for the production of Jaegers, as Striker Eureka allegedly cost $100 billion AUD, which suggests that Australia was a significant, if not the sole, contributor to the construction of Striker. It would also explain why richer nations (Like Japan and the US) had multiple Jaegers and why poorer ones (like Mexico and Chile) only had a single Jaeger. </p> </div>The PPDC was funded by the United Nations, and clearly employed people from all over the world. Apparently 193/195 countries are a part of the United Nations, so literally almost the whole world was involved with the PPDC. Of course all Jaegers will be stationed in Pacific Rim countries, and PR nations will be investing more into their own Jaegers, but in the end the PPDC owned these Jaegers. The PacRim countries are paying to have their own tech developed for Jaegers that'll be based around their nearest Shatterdome. And of course, each country wasn't left to develop the Jaeger on their own. They'd be produced in a PPDC Jaeger Production Facilitiy, which would have many workers from all over the world and funding from the UN. <p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i>OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Exactly, very well said. I only disagree with the kaiju bones part, it's clearly said in the movie that metals such as iron and titanium were used. I can see past that and assume in reality, another material would be used. I think they were trying to sound scientific by mentioning different metals, it really just comes off as kinda cheesy to me though.</div>Why should not Asgardians use strong materials as well?Why can't they use quantum level technology?PR is not more realistic than MCU.</div>Sure they can, I never suggested they can't, but how on Earth can Thor fly? He can't, not in the real world. No one just flies like that in Pacific Rim. Pacific Rim also doesn't have a hammer that can't be lifted by people other than some magical guy called Thor who happily goes against the laws of physics (which isn't possible in the real world buddy).</div>Maybe he has some kind of powerfield or anti gravity tech,who know.Mjolnir also has gravity manipulations. <p>Again.Thor is not a magical guy in the MCU,he is just a very strong alien with cool weapon and ability to absorb and shoot electricity </p> </div>The alien tech argument holds up in many scenarios, and I can agree with it, but where's Thor's anti-grav tech? The idea is he's a God of Thunder, and can fly without the tech, which isn't possible in our world. And again, what happened to you answering Thor's hammer being lifted? There's no argument here, because as mentioned, the MCU is clearly stated to show Earth in a different universe, not the real one. </div> <p>MCU Earth is the same Earth as ours,but with superheroes/villains and Cosmic beings </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Levithan1 wrote:
i say onibaba because he has some form of armor unlike mutavore onibaba also has crab clawsp</i></div>
<p>It* </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Exactly, very well said. I only disagree with the kaiju bones part, it's clearly said in the movie that metals such as iron and titanium were used. I can see past that and assume in reality, another material would be used. I think they were trying to sound scientific by mentioning different metals, it really just comes off as kinda cheesy to me though.</div>Why should not Asgardians use strong materials as well?Why can't they use quantum level technology?PR is not more realistic than MCU.</div>Sure they can, I never suggested they can't, but how on Earth can Thor fly? He can't, not in the real world. No one just flies like that in Pacific Rim. Pacific Rim also doesn't have a hammer that can't be lifted by people other than some magical guy called Thor who happily goes against the laws of physics (which isn't possible in the real world buddy). </div> <p>Maybe he has some kind of powerfield or anti gravity tech,who know.Mjolnir also has gravity manipulations. </p><p>Again.Thor is not a magical guy in the MCU,he is just a very strong alien with cool weapon and ability to absorb and shoot electricity </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">Godzilla vs gipsy danger wrote:<div class="quote">Glitchrr36 wrote:
Thor ignores a bunch of physical laws, sure (most notably conservation of energy, and however he's supposed to fly is probably wrong as well), but the PR verse breaks tons of them as well, like materials strengths are impossible and pretty much all of biochemistry as well.</i></div>
To be fair, the Kaiju were made by a highly advanced alien race. We have no idea what sort of biology they have or what materials they have access to. The Jaegers were only built after the first kaiju, perhaps we were able to learn how to make stronger materials from their bones. I think the less realistic part is the production times, but even then, just look at the US Navy during WW2. Hundreds of ships were produced in a few years, and this was one country with tech from 70 years ago. A futuristic, united, Earth would probably be able to do even better. </div>Exactly, very well said. I only disagree with the kaiju bones part, it's clearly said in the movie that metals such as iron and titanium were used. I can see past that and assume in reality, another material would be used. I think they were trying to sound scientific by mentioning different metals, it really just comes off as kinda cheesy to me though. </div> <p>Why should not Asgardians use strong materials as well?Why can't they use quantum level technology?PR is not more realistic than MCU. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:<div class="quote">OnibabaKaiju wrote:<div class="quote">Spartan-II UNSC wrote:
Gamma radiation can't mutate anyone like that regardless, and you're speaking as if the "super soldier serum" is a real thing. Again, conservation of mass/energy, you need to put work in. These are clearly not just steroids, they don't make sense. These are real people, not aliens, and even the Kaiju in Pacific Rim at least follow the laws of physics despite being alien weapons. <p>Comparing Marvel characters against each other is fair enough in most cases, as many of them are magical beings and nothing makes sense regardless, meanwhile Kaiju are scientific-based. These two universes can't be fairly compared; ones more ike the real world, and the other's a magical fantasy. </p> </i></div>
Kaiju's are not more realistic than MCU Thor <p>MCU Thor is a biological organism,with incredible physical strength and durability+super advanced weapons.It hase been confirmed that there is no magic in the MCU,there is just a quantum manipulations and other things </p> </div>Thor defies the laws of physics. In the real world, he's magic. In the alternate universe, it may be acceptable, but not in the real wold. </div> <p>what laws? </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:
Gamma radiation can't mutate anyone like that regardless, and you're speaking as if the "super soldier serum" is a real thing. Again, conservation of mass/energy, you need to put work in. These are clearly not just steroids, they don't make sense. These are real people, not aliens, and even the Kaiju in Pacific Rim at least follow the laws of physics despite being alien weapons. <p>Comparing Marvel characters against each other is fair enough in most cases, as many of them are magical beings and nothing makes sense regardless, meanwhile Kaiju are scientific-based. These two universes can't be fairly compared; ones more ike the real world, and the other's a magical fantasy. </p> </i></div>
<p>Kaiju's are not more realistic than MCU Thor </p><p>MCU Thor is a biological organism,with incredible physical strength and durability+super advanced weapons.It hase been confirmed that there is no magic in the MCU,there is just a quantum manipulations and other things </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Spartan-II UNSC wrote:
I'd love to know how anyone can mutate into the Hulk. What happened to conservation of mass/energy? He just grows a ton of muscle out of nowhere? Thor is a Norse god, that's pretty damn magical. Read about how the Breach works, it's not a magical portal. As for Slattern? Well, he's not only a Cat V, but also like all other Kaiju an alien. As we know, these are some damn tough aliens. When we were still nuking Kaiju, there's been at least one time when a Kaiju took more than one nuke. Now sure, this bomb strapped to Striker is <i>a lot</i> more than what was used against the first Kaiju, but you need to keep in mind it's deep under water, and that makes a huge difference. The two main points to take away here are Category V, and underwater. <p>Dinosaurs were the first Kaiju, the Precursors' initial attempt. </p> </i></div>
<p>There is no magic in the MCU </p><p>Thor is not a god,he is avery powerful alien. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Spartan-II UNSC wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Aggression25 wrote:<div class="quote"> <p>Spartan-II UNSC wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Aggression25 wrote:<div class="quote"> <p>Spartan-II UNSC wrote: Hulk wouldn't have a chance against any Kaiju. His strongest blow would feel like a poke at most. His best shot would be to throw something <i>very </i>large and sharp at the kaiju. I'm certain any kaiju would destroy the Hulk with no problem. </p> </i></div>
Except that Hulk gets stronger the more enraged he becomes, enabling his blows to do more damage to a Kaiju. So, if there was a crossover involving the Hulk, he'd be a threat to Onibaba's life.</div>Ok sure he gets stronger, but you think Onibaba's just gonna stand there and accept hits? He'll be getting violently attacked as well, and Onibaba has claws and mandibles which will be particulary useful against the Hulk. </div>Onibaba would more than likely try to ignore Hulk and proceed with its mission, but when Hulk continues to persist, it'll have to fight him and try to hit in the hopes that he'll stay down for good. </div> <p>Sounds fair enough, but then I disagree. Onibaba specifically kept trying to kill Mako, whether all Kaiju behave like this or just Onibaba specifically is up for debate, but I can't imagine Onibaba ignoring <i>the Hulk </i>when he didn't ignore Mako. </p> </div> <p>In which category MCU Hulk should be if compared to other Kaiju s? </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Owerslachlan wrote: there has not been a onibaba figure maked sadly :( </p> </i></div>
<p>Why? Even Karloff has it's figure. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Spartan-II UNSC wrote: Hulk wouldn't have a chance against any Kaiju. His strongest blow would feel like a poke at most. His best shot would be to throw something <i>very </i>large and sharp at the kaiju. I'm certain any kaiju would destroy the Hulk with no problem. </p> </i></div>
<p>Hulk killed a giant armored monster without any effort.Onibaba is bigger and has thicker shell,but dozens of those punches would be enough to do some damage.He has shown to be able to push Surtur back with a punch.Surtur is as big as a mountain </p>