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  • So the Kaiju Cat system still works the same way (thankfully), but what's going on with Saber Athena? Saber's a Mark VII, yet she was launched before Gipsy Avenger, which is a Mark VI. The Pacific Rim Wiki says that the Mark system is based on launch schedule, and this appears to be consistent with when all Jaegers are launched. There's less than a month's difference between the launch dates of these two, Saber being in Dec 2033 and Gipsy in Jan 2034, but this would either make Gipsy a Mark VII or Saber a Mark VI, so what's going on? We know for sure that Gipsy is a Mark VI, and Saber is a Mark VII, but this goes against the whole "Mark" categorisation. 

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    • It's possible that the Mark desigation is actually based off of construction dates. Avenger could have begun construction earlier but Athena may have finished construction before it. That or the Mark's were based off predicted launch dates, and unforeseen delays meant Avenger was launched shortly after Athena.



      That, or the more likely explanation of "the producers didn't care and just made random dates up for the sake of making it look like they actually cared about the film"

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    • Delayed contruction's certainly possible, would love to get confirmation some day.

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    • Most likely, it also depends upon the newer resources used in production of the new Jaegers. That's why Saber Athena is a Mark 7 instead of a Mark 6.

      But since all the Jaegers are destroyed again, they'll likely got Mark 8 now.

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    • Can you link me to a reference saying the resources used determine the mark status? Here on the site it says launch schedule, not sure if a reference is provided for that though.

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    • The article for Saber Athena describes her as an "experimental" Mark 7, so maybe her design incorporates newer, more up to date technology that's yet to be perfected, and the early launch date was to allow more time to work out bugs and perfect the technology before it's incorporated onto "mainline" Mark 7 Jaegers

      As for the launch scheduale, Beacham did talk about it on a tumblr post, but because that site has such a shite interface trying to find it again has proven to be a pain in the ass.

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    • Spartan-II UNSC wrote: Can you link me to a reference saying the resources used determine the mark status? Here on the site it says launch schedule, not sure if a reference is provided for that though.

      No link, just an opinion on the possibility of new resources being used to create newer Jaegers. People create newer forms of metal that are lighter and stronger, shatter-proof glass, etc.

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      The article for Saber Athena describes her as an "experimental" Mark 7, so maybe her design incorporates newer, more up to date technology that's yet to be perfected, and the early launch date was to allow more time to work out bugs and perfect the technology before it's incorporated onto "mainline" Mark 7 Jaegers

      As for the launch scheduale, Beacham did talk about it on a tumblr post, but because that site has such a shite interface trying to find it again has proven to be a pain in the ass.

      Link it here if you ever find it, thanks.

      Aggression25 wrote:

      Spartan-II UNSC wrote: Can you link me to a reference saying the resources used determine the mark status? Here on the site it says launch schedule, not sure if a reference is provided for that though.

      No link, just an opinion on the possibility of new resources being used to create newer Jaegers. People create newer forms of metal that are lighter and stronger, shatter-proof glass, etc.

      Nice suggestion, I'm looking more for solid confirmation though, thanks.

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    • Lily Ford
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      Double post.
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    • It took a fair amount of digging, but I finally found the tumblr post about the marks (link here: http://travisbeacham.tumblr.com/post/56537899375/pacific-rim-lexicon-entry-3-mark-x )

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      It took a fair amount of digging, but I finally found the tumblr post about the marks (link here: http://travisbeacham.tumblr.com/post/56537899375/pacific-rim-lexicon-entry-3-mark-x )

      Thanks, this proves my point exactly. I'll try see if I can find any confirmation on these launch dates.

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    • Lily Ford
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    • Well, the launch date reference for Athena is from here (https://twitter.com/PacificRim/status/964907313973743617) but said reference also calls the Jaeger a Mark 6, so maybe the other information is incorrect or outdated.

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      Well, the launch date reference for Athena is from here (https://twitter.com/PacificRim/status/964907313973743617) but said reference also calls the Jaeger a Mark 6, so maybe the other information is incorrect or outdated.

      I know where to find references for the launch dates. I need to know if they're canon or not.

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    • Considering they're from the film's official twitter page, it's about as canon as the film or the word of the director

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      Considering they're from the film's official twitter page, it's about as canon as the film or the word of the director

      Fair point, you know where the Wiki got the source for Saber being "experimental". Your suggestion from earlier could actually make perfect sense.

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    • the mark system could still work though because at least 2 jeagers are still able to be fixed and operable 

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    • Levithan1 wrote:
      the mark system could still work though because at least 2 jeagers are still able to be fixed and operable 


      That... doesn't answer the question at all. The question was (in simple terms) "previously the mark was determined by date (PR1) but a Mark 7 Jaeger has an earlier launch date than a Mark 6; does this mean the determination of Mark has changed or is there another explanation?". And we already know the system is still in effect, considering that in 2025 the PPDC was left with 0 Jaegers and still had Mark 5, 6's and 7's 10 years later.

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      Levithan1 wrote:
      the mark system could still work though because at least 2 jeagers are still able to be fixed and operable 


      That... doesn't answer the question at all. The question was (in simple terms) "previously the mark was determined by date (PR1) but a Mark 7 Jaeger has an earlier launch date than a Mark 6; does this mean the determination of Mark has changed or is there another explanation?". And we already know the system is still in effect, considering that in 2025 the PPDC was left with 0 Jaegers and still had Mark 5, 6's and 7's 10 years later.

      Thank you.

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    • oh.......my mistake

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      Levithan1 wrote:
      the mark system could still work though because at least 2 jeagers are still able to be fixed and operable 


      That... doesn't answer the question at all. The question was (in simple terms) "previously the mark was determined by date (PR1) but a Mark 7 Jaeger has an earlier launch date than a Mark 6; does this mean the determination of Mark has changed or is there another explanation?". And we already know the system is still in effect, considering that in 2025 the PPDC was left with 0 Jaegers and still had Mark 5, 6's and 7's 10 years later.

      Hey can you please link me to the wiki's source for Saber being an experimental Mark 7? I meant to add a question mark when I asked for it a few posts up, didn't look like much of a question.

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    • Hmm, the wiki doesn't seem to have a reference for it, but DeKnight's twitter (https://twitter.com/stevendeknight/status/957471575304896513) does confirm it's a Mark 7. It may just be speculation that it's "experimental", but considering the early launch date and her speed compared to the rest of the Jaeger's, it's certainly not baseless.

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    • Chrome Colossus wrote:
      Hmm, the wiki doesn't seem to have a reference for it, but DeKnight's twitter (https://twitter.com/stevendeknight/status/957471575304896513) does confirm it's a Mark 7. It may just be speculation that it's "experimental", but considering the early launch date and her speed compared to the rest of the Jaeger's, it's certainly not baseless.

      Ah got ya, let me know if you ever find out anything, thanks.

      EDIT: Looks like moderatore Lily Ford has been reading over this, she updated the Saber Athena article recently, and I believe she added in the reference: https://io9.gizmodo.com/all-the-pacific-rim-uprising-info-revealed-at-its-new-y-1819219602 I'm guessing when they talk about the Jaegers, that's coming from DeKnight, so yeah she's definitely an experimental one. Wow, this actually kinda sorts out the whole thing I guess. She's launched earlier but listed as a Mark VII because this is what the PPDC intends Mark VIIs to be like, but the step-up in technology is so huge that they need to prototype one and launch it earlier to ensure the Mark VIIs are a viable option before they start developing them. Gipsy Avenger may have been the last Mark VI to be launched then.

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    • Lily Ford
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