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  • So recently I've been discussing with a few friends about the possibility of the Breech between worlds re-opening. It's a daunting thought though it seems It may just happen. Sequels always have to have an enemy, right?

    So, We know that Newton drifted with a Kaiju brain twice, The second time joined by Hermann, and that a Drift is two way. If the Kaiju have a collective consciousness then it's highly likely that the race beyond the breech saw what Humanity had coming for them and also Humanities stance, since the last Jaeger was destroyed.

    Since the breech was closed, I believe that the PPDC would be closed down, due to the fact that it would be pointless spending funds and resources on things that weren't needed anymore, which leaves the human race some-what defenceless if the Breech were to re-open.

    It's just a theory but there's always the possibility of it happening. Any thoughts?

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    • they opened it once in theory they could do it again. i think that even though the wars over some of the PPDC such as the new marshall Hansen would probably try to rebuild a few jaegers as a fail safe incase they do actually open it back up.

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    • This (or the opening of an entirely new breach elsewhere) would most likely be the hook for a sequel (if such were to occur).

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    • .*sees title*

      Pfft, Jaegers dont need underwear

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    • Even if they did reopen the Breech they probably have to wait the 20 or so years for it to be stable/strong enough to send in the Cat Fours and Cat Fives. 

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    • next "future" film is, Mid Ocean Ridge

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    • what we know so far is that, every jaeger was destroyed, cherno, chrimson, eureka, gipsey, so if that was the case the kaiju master could reopen the portal casue they have a whole planet and i belive gipsey blew up the kaiju factory and there could be others. and they have opended the portal before and will do it again. 

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    • Remember, whatever machinery they were using to create/maintain the breach on the other end was obliterated when Gipsy Danger blew. Judging from the scope of the infrastructure we saw on the other side of the breach, rebuilding it could take quite some time, even with alien tech

      Also, now that humans know exactly what's going on, where the Kaiju came from, the whole prelude-to-alien-colonization thing, it seems unlikely that the PPDC would be shut down. Even if a threat recedes, humans tend to prepare for it to happen again. The cold war ended decades ago, but we're still researching and building nuclear weapons

      And, though it would kill any possibility of a sequel, and is thus unlikely, the counterattack might have convinced the aliens that earth isn't worth the trouble to take it over and just look for an easier planet

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    • No chance the aliens forget.

      If you read the book it is said explicitly and several times that their world is dying.

      If Earth was dying, you can bet your sweet arse that we would take out any inhabitants we could to find a new place to live.  Survivalism is one of the strongest instincts.

      They will return, the question is can they create a breach or do they simply use what is possibly there in nature?

      Whether or not they have another "factory" is an interesting question.  Again, in the book, it is said that the breach lay right above the factory, in the center of their dying city.

      Obviously set up for ease of transport, much better to send a giant monster straight up than figure the logistics of getting one across a planet.  So I could see there NOT being another, but then again I cant see an alien race so old not having a back up plan.

      I can almost gauruntee however that they CAN in fact open another portal.  The aspect that the kaiju had a DNA "scanner" to make sure only kaiju could get through to me implies they created it, we will see.

      If they were to come back however they would need to completely rethink their strategy.

      Even if they opened a portal, it is not strong enough in the beginning to do more than a Cat 1 every 12 months.  We would be STARTING with all Striker Eureka type Jaegers that would smash cat 1's quickly.  I could even see us building a "jiujitsu" type Jaeger to destroy the rift right off the bat.

      Be pretty sick to see Gypsie put a Kaiju in an arm bar and drag it through the portal to blow it up.

      To be honest the Earth is too educated now.  My tactical strategy would be to put several submersed nuclear launchers at the breach.  As soon as a Kaiju starts comming through we have a few seconds to get a nuke down that thing and destroy it.

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    • Nukes dont do so well on the enviroment though. TORPEDO THE KAIJU THE MOMENT THEY APPEAR :D

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    • we are talking about a planet, there could be more factorys

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    • hence why the atlantic ridge is the hypothetical next breach

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    • even if it is the atlantic ridge in the sequel the film can't be called atlantic rim, at least not after that terrible parody

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    • the kaiju might be be prehistoric creatures from the precursors planet that were extinct until the precursors ressurected them with their bio technology and learnt to control them

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    • thats why i posted elsewhere that its "Mid Ocean Ridge" lol

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    • The Pacific rim is also known as the "Ring of Fire" so maybe that will be the title of the second movie?

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    • Thats a good name

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    • The name of the next movie needs to be instantly recognizable as related to Pacific Rim. Ring of Fire doesn't work, unless it's "Pacific Rim: Ring of Fire", which would be quite redundant.

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    • i think that name works Pacific Rim: Ring of fire and plus i can name three different titles to see what would work

      Pacific Rim 2 of course

      Pacific Rim:, nevermind this is hard to think of names

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    • Pacific Rim 2: The Ring of Fire

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    • Take out The, Pacific Rim Ring of Fire

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    • Reaper said that one's redundant though... Meh, rule of cool!


      Pacific Rim(2): (The) Ring of Fire

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    • Lose the 2 and the

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    • pacific rim; return of raiju ^^

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    • ... 

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    • the first raiju is dead but like newton explained they are clones, and The title sounds stupid, just no

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    • meant to be a joke, as is the kaiju

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    • Btonkin7 wrote:
      pacific rim; return of raiju ^^


      I like this one.

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    • LOL

      We could start a whole miniseries on Raiju and his Darwin Awards XD

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    • Pacific Rim; Gypsy Vs MechaSlattern ;D

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    • Sadly its rather unlikely (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) the movie was slamed with some bad reviews

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    • it had good reviews dumbass

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    • The primary barrier to the movie getting a sequel is that it simply didn't make anywhere near enough in the US to offset it's massive price tag (and might never do so).

      However, the movie was never intended to make its money here. Pacific Rim was designed to exploit the fact that at least half of any given movie's money is expected to come from overseas nowadays. And Pacific Rim was definitely designed for an international audience.

      Indeed, it looks like whether or not the movie receives a sequel will be entirely dependent on how it does in China and Japan. And it broke every record in China on its first day.

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    • Based on the amount of money the movie alone has grossed I believe a sequal is already a done deal.

      There is sooooo much to market as to this movie, games, toys, video games, collectables.

      Movies like this create a fan base unlike any other genre of film making.  Already it is cloe to 300M revenue.  It was 190M to make and I read somewhere another 70M to market.

      That means so far they have seen a profit of nearly 40M in three weeks without the power murchndizing will bring in the future.

      If it were my business I would say yes and we know Del Toro has a huge passion for this.


      I look forward to the sequal.


      - Cas

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    • Well, as much as I would love a sequel, it's simply not that simple.

      As of last week, the movie has grossed $227 million (with $87 million coming from the US). For most movies, this would be a success, but Pacific Rim is not most movies. It's development cost was $190 million. And then there's marketing and other costs to consider (which could add another $100 million to it). Furthermore, studios don't get as large of a cut from the international gross.

      It's unlikely that Pacific Rim has yet become profitable. Of course, the movie has yet to open in Japan (I'm quite curious to see how it will do there; the movie is a love letter to two classic Japanese genres, has many Japanese themes, and a Japanese actress; but may have to compete against "true" Japanese movies and has had surprisingly little marketing in Japan), and there's DVD sales to consider (given that most people who saw the movie liked it, it's possible there will be higher DVD sales than normally). Still, it's entirely possible that Pacific Rim might never justify its price tag.

      However, this might actually make a sequel more likely. The nice thing about sequels, remakes, and adaptations is that there is a ready-made viewer base, which makes marketing very cheap (this is why Hollywood loves them). So, even if Pacific Rim doesn't justify its cost, it could set up a fan base for a sequel that would be profitable, simply by virtue of requiring less money for marketing (and if they could get a big star, it would bring in even more viewers; the fact that there are people who watch whatever movie a particular actor is in simply because they are in it is the entire reason big stars are such a big deal). Furthermore, given Hollywood executive logic, they could cut a few corners on a sequel to get costs down and save even more money (after all, the fans are still likely to come simply because of how much they liked the first one, even if the sequel is an inferior movie).

      However, regardless of whether or not Pacific Rim gets a sequel, it has already made a huge impact on Hollywood, because it has proven beyond all doubt that the international audience is a demographic worth fighting for. Traditionally, American audiences were the ones that mattered, with international ones being an afterthought. Today, international viewers supply at least half of a movie's income (and that share is only going to keep increasing). Pacific Rim was designed to appeal to these audiences from the get-go, and as a result is going extremely well overseas.

      At this very moment, movie executives are looking at the numbers and saying to themselves "What if we made a movie with the same international appeal, but with big stars and a much smaller budget?".

      And given how much Hollywood has been struggling in the last few years, the further exploration of international markets can only be a good thing.

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    • The Movie has grossed 293 Million, pushing 300 Million. After DVD and online movie rentals it should gross 400 million. A Sequel will happen, and perform just as well, if not better.

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    • dude 400 million is out the picture

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    • only 3.2m-4m in dvds/ rentals alone would cover the remainder cost assuming it stays in theatres a week or two more, add in merchandice and 400m is not hard to attain

      the problem isnt the gross amount it made its the net, since we dont know the exact figures involved with its cost nor the exact percentages  after taxes that they took in, it might not recover the money spent

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    • they already made their money back, they used 190 million and the movie made 293 million

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    • 293 is gross sales not net and 190 million only includes direct costs of the film

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    • i know that, they used 190 million to make the film and made 293 million around the world in box office

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    • ok, forgetting all this talk about budgets and math, i present to you my plot for the sequel: The humans savor the victory of closing the breach, but realize the threat is not truly over. With the precursors still alive, earth is still in danger. With knowledge obtained from the human-kaiju drift, the humans open another breach to the precursor world. New Jaegers are specially built that are fused with kaiju remains, forming a hybrid that is able to pass through the breach undetected. The new line of jaeger hyrbrids pass into the breach and fight a final battle that will decide the fate of both earth and the precursor world.

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    • so like bone-plate armour?

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    • dudes that is crap, how can the humans open what the precursors made

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    • ^hes mean

      Anyways, this is a future with GIANT ROBOTS, so whos to say they cant? for all we know, cloning the Kaiju DNA might actually result in eventually growing another portal, considering that the Kaiju just have that DNA to be let through, but all their atributes, etc, are manufactured and bio-attatched.

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    • but how do the humans create what the aliens did?

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    • um, as i said the humans could have learned how to open a breach through the human-kaiju drift. All kaiju share a hive mind, so it would not be farfetched to say that at least one kaiju had knowledge of how the breach worked, or had at least seen a precursor create one.

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    • that is still stupid, the aliens made a organic portal like macanic but how do the humans do the same, that is still crap, watch me make my plot in the forums

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    • dude, cant you read?!?!?! we both had pretty decent suggestions. Newt and Hermann could probably replicate it due to Drifting with the hivemind, and I said it might be doable via cloning the Kaiju DNA since the Kaiju are manufactured and we dont actually have any idea of what the DNA creates, other than a pass-key for the portal

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    • Basilisk is right. We know the breach only allowed kaiju to pass through, so it would be logical to assume that, with knowledge from the kaiju drift and samples of kaiju dna, humans could reverse engineer another portal.

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    • go to my plot in the forums

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    • Tatic Ronin wrote:
      i know that, they used 190 million to make the film and made 293 million around the world in box office


      But not all of that money has gone to them. International theaters give the studios a cut of the profits, not the whole thing. And the $190 million doesn't include marketing costs.

      However, the fact that the movie has made another $70 million worldwide in the week (or less) since I last checked is a good sign.

      And it still hasn't opened in Spain, Brazil, or Japan yet.

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    • ik, i cant wait to see the box office after that

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    • If we take the novelization's assertion that the Precursors' world is dying and that survivalism is their greatest concern, it would make sense that after the counterattack they would look for an easier planet to take over. If your survival is hanging in the balance you're not goung to risk taking on an opponent that just proved that even if they go down they can do a hell of a lot of damage on their way, not if you have any other options

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    • the question is and assumption against, is whether or not they have a better option

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    • The way Newton phrases his explanation of what the Precursors do implies that Earth isn't the first planet they've attacked and overtaken. The fact that they knew about Earth in the time of the Dinosaurs indicates they've been doing this for a very long time. It would stand to reason that they're getting to earth now because its the most convenient of several planets on their radar.

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    • Tatic Ronin wrote:
      dudes that is crap, how can the humans open what the precursors made

      The same way they built 2500 ton robots that don't crumple like wet paper bags under their own weight.

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    • think about this wat if humans made wait for it ... a kaiju zoo ?

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    • Make a prequel. Pacific Rim: The Kaiju War.

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    • 91.4.223.63 wrote:
      The way Newton phrases his explanation of what the Precursors do implies that Earth isn't the first planet they've attacked and overtaken. The fact that they knew about Earth in the time of the Dinosaurs indicates they've been doing this for a very long time. It would stand to reason that they're getting to earth now because its the most convenient of several planets on their radar.


      Also makes it possible that they arent the only settlement of the species that are eyeing up Earth for invasion

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    • idk

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    • Simply put. We stopped an extermination. Next chapter is the war.

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    • Bada Bing Bada Boom...

      This one is gonna be big... REALLY BIG. >:D

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    • Like what people already said, in real life, the Precursors would just target another planet. But my plot is for the Precursors to make another breach, say, near the Gulf of Alaska, or near Australia to throw the humans off. Of course, the UN wouldn't just say "No Kaiju? Disband the PPDC, and stop making Jaegers!". Of course were gonna still make Jaegers. And the PPDC would obviously be devoted to humanitarian aid to the countries affected by the Kaiju War, and the PPDC might act like the NATO of the Pacific nations. And I would like for countries like Thailand, Cambodia, South Korea, Japan, Mexico, etc. to have Jaegers, and take part in the PPDC. And I would take the name: Pacific Rim: World War K(K for Kaiju)

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    • Well, making even more huge expensive robots that are basically useless outside of monster fighting wouldn't be the best of ideas, if it seems like we don't need them anymore.

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    • Cyber-Shadow6 wrote:
      Well, making even more huge expensive robots that are basically useless outside of monster fighting wouldn't be the best of ideas, if it seems like we don't need them anymore.

      (looks at the cold war)

      (looks at the nuclear weapons countries have in store)

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    • Ah, yes. I must have forgotten the part where we sealed the hole in space and time that allowed each side to attack the other.

      Also:

      (Looks at how poorly maintained said weapons are)

      (Looks at how many nuclear weapons have come in handy)

      (Looks at Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons )

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